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PaperCut
From the July 20th Call, I know you went over this several times, but in the process you would respond to something in the chat, and go off a bit, I transcribed the entire call, and then estrapolated the notes from the chat and still seem very confused at the entites for the three EIN #'s

1st - 98 Series (foreign) is for the "First-Middle, House of Last" which is to generate a foreign trustee from.

2nd - 98 Series (foreign) is for First Middle Last, with the "House of Last" as the responsible party.

3rd - 3x Series number (?Domestic?) for the FIRST MIDDLE LAST for the 508 exclusion,  in the call you said making it foreign to the US and used to interface with the public.

I know you were asked several times on the call and in the chat, but still from compiling the transcripts and the chat together, I and I am sure others still aren't quiet clear, and I realize its only guidance, but at the same time it just isn't clear which is for what and what number.

Thanks in advance for any clarification you can provide.
Terry

BTW, there is a great book "Beyond Bureaucratic Boundaries" Understanding the Freedoms of Corporation Sold, about 38 pages, very detailed in understanding and operating a corp sole.  Can't find link on internet but I still have it if interested.
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the 3X-series ein is established as a DOMESTIC interface
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Tony
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Hi

I read the attached with much interest.  I went on the internet to find out more about this "corporation soul", there was barely anything - however, I did a further search on the individuals who were promoting "corporation soul" and found this:

https://www.justice.gov/archive/tax/txdv05614.htm

What was written in this 35 page package was interesting and of course, made "logical/legal sense", ie, the separation of church and state; however, which I believe most of us have experienced, we get ignored, regardless if there is legal precedence or at the very least, our sincere intent, ie to obliterate, extinguish and retire debt.  I guess the pope or the queen have a "special status" that can be ignored with regard to us "regular folks".

As I stated previously, I obtained Boris' apostilled package from MN, I can understand the use of "corporation soul" term used in the paperwork as a reference point and not as a sole end goal.  Whereas the attached reference from soleresources.org appears to be an end goal.  I presume the entire package was to "establish an un-rebuttable/refutable evidence of records to prove trust"

Boris, do not be upset with me that I obtained this info, I just really want to "understand".  Like so many, and you too, so much time and effort has gone in this study, frustrating the hell out of us.  In reading CW's narrative posted the other day, from my memory, the system was set up to "clear out the debt" ie to use the banks as clearing houses, but officials ignore this.  I tried this with an attempt to deposit "credit", a payment stub with the proper indorsement, the manager freaked out and returned it back to me certified mail.  Even when I deposit checks, I do not indorse the private credit, "lawful money and full discharge is demanded for all transactions per 12 USC 411 and 12 USC 95a", this too gets ignored, as I asked the teller.    

The rule of usufruct - with the delivery, surrender, conveyance, etc is ignored.

Going to the probate court in private with affidavit of life, cestui que, etc was ignored.  

Catholic church was ignored.  

State of birth - spoke with the one who signed the BC AFTER I had sent him letters asking him questions, I said to him, why did you not answer?  He said - why should I?

I even did a sample "declaratory judgment in private" up to the AG of state of birth, got ignored.

I do not want to whine, this is why I want to get this "trust stuff understood".  It makes sense but also what I have done in the past - and that got ignored.  The Declaratory Judgment document was on point and tied specific to their statutes and their obligations relating to their statutes.  Got ignored :(


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iamsomedude
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation_sole

To understand the docs you still have to come to grips with the one reality:

When one is identified by ALL CAP NAME or by an ALL CAP NAME, one is being addressed AS-IF one were dead and under the Cestui Que Vie Act of 1666, when the one presumed dead shows up Live, then the estate of the presumed dead re-vests within the one so identified.

One creates an Irrevocable Living Trust of which expresses the Resulting Trust held within the Cestui Que Trust which then would serve as the Law under which the Trust operates when administrated and the State (Storehouse) is the beneficiary of of the usufruct of all WORKS done while one exercises their FAITH.

The NAME itself is TRANSFORMED into a Corporate Sole by the one using it so it be Live to receive the Spirit of the one operating it and if the one operating it has Christ Consciousness within their Heart, then NAME takes on the Spirit of Jesus Christ and operates accordingly; the INSTRUMENT takes effect according to it tenor and purpose; will and intent: the Intention of the Parties is the Soul of the Instrument.

The other issue is: what did you expect?

Most of the issues you are having are exactly the same one we experienced: We kept knocking on closed doors. Now, we don't, we just operate. We TRUST and have FAITH in the WORKS we have done using the FOUNDATION provided by Jesus Christ.
 
 
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Tony
OK, I do not have the reference in front of me, however, is it not true that regardless of capital, NAME or no caps, name, it is all about a fictional title, the first and last put together to create a title?  I just want to be clear about how a court looks at the name.  We have been through this and you answered it, as it does not matter, it is about creating a record/trust.  I can accept this.  I just want to bring up this point as “how a court looks at the title” whether caps or no caps, it is about title, instrument, or property of the State.  

Of course, we must USE a name to live in society, for the purpose of provisions and relative comfort.  I fully understand we must rebut their presumption of surety.  How this appears to be effectively done is through creating records, ie, affidavit of life, affidavit of correction, etc.  No question, they are allowed to presume anything that profits them and places us in position of surety.  These are their rules under a private corporate entity called the United States.  

And again, this irrevocable trust, as you stated:  “serve[s] as the Law under which the Trust operates when administrated and the State (Storehouse) is the beneficiary of of the usufruct of all WORKS done while one exercises their FAITH.”  In other words, we are still surrendering to Caesar what is Caesar’s as an exercise in faith [that the State will provide provisions according to how this trust was set up, putting it another way, “And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.”]  This was a “trust that was created”

You are suggesting though this irrevocable trust and all the records created, the name, caps or no caps, itself is transformed into a corporation soul, a single business entity without liability based upon intent and will/desire.

OK, to answer your question – what did I expect [of them]?  To follow their law.  Yes, they are permitted to deceive in order to protect the United States.  I get that.  BUT TOO, we can go back to many references from the LON, Lieber Code,  ICCPR, DOI, Hague, etc.  LON II, § 104. Protection due to foreigners - The sovereign ought not to grant an entrance into his state for the purpose of drawing foreigners into a snare; as soon as he admits them, he engages to protect them as his own subjects, and to afford them perfect security, as far as depends on him.

Finally Boris, I truly hope you will consider having a weekend seminar, as you did in the past.  I am in Fort Lauderdale and to journey for this experience would be awesome.  
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Tony
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I also have another question -- and this is meant specifically with regard to public officials and how they conduct business.  I have shared previously, that I can to this study basically through studying spiritual principles FIRST, I hold personal value to what I have learned and continue to learn.  It is a journey.  

But here is my long about question:  Public officials look at themselves as god here on earth, basically atheistic.  They suggest God, but actually DO the opposite of his teaching and commands.  I fully get, they are in place to help us "get who are real daddy is".  

In all our paperwork we mention God/Jesus as our core deeply held belief and that under the first amendment, "shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof", OK, what does our belief or no belief really have to do with them?  It is clear they are godless by the mere fact they intentionally ignore the commands of God PLUS they falsely profit on top of the usufruct.  

If the paperwork is all about trust with all the parties, grantor, beneficiary and trustee, how does the mention of God benefit or not benefit our paperwork?  They are godless [even with an end purpose of God or our good, go beyond this point] and they can ONLY recognize dead paper to do their "business".

I hope I have made this clear.  For me, of course, I put more than my faith in God, it is a KNOWINGNESS, regardless of this illusion on planet earth, ALL IS WELL.  I sincerely mean this and attempt to "consciously practice this" even when faced with shit.  My point is OK, everything is a trust.  Great, let us do trust.  God is not going to administrate the trust, that is not His job.  They are going to administrate the trust AS TRUSTEE, that IS THEIR JOB, regardless of my belief, faith or knowingness of my strongly held belief system.  

See my point?  It is just to see the group's thoughts on this.  

 
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iamsomedude
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Let's make this as simple as possible:

We created an Irrevocable Living Trust = no one can alter nor amend; one is both beneficiary and trustee of this trust so one can do all works in his name for his glory. This trust is to act as a conduit between Heaven and Earth (Treasury and Public)

We made it a Domestic Trust so the Public Servants; Trustees of the usufruct, can administrate the Trust when a DEBT arises while we operate thru it. The LORD (Storehouse) receives usufruct of the WORKS does in exercise of one's FAITH while one receive the naked ownership over the WORKS while in usufruct of FAITH.

LORD is naked owner over FAITH and as trustee, ensures one REPLENISH-FAITH; fulfill on the usufructuary duties regarding FAITH: keep the commandments, observe natural law, and walk with the Faith of Jesus Christ.

This Trust is "owned" by the House of Last; an ecclesiastical nation, housed within the Kingdom of Heaven based upon Psalm 91.

The Trustee of the Living Trust is a CORPORATE-SOLE aka ALL CAP NAME and is FOREIGN: the recipient or BENEFICIARY of the estate held within the CESTUI QUE TRUST (ALL CAP NAME). This occurs when one is identified by or recognized through "Any Legal Name" because this causes the SSN securities to collapse from the GOVERNOR (CROWN) which then restores LEGAL TITLE to the EQUITABLE INTEREST of the BC Securities held by the TUTOR (VATICAN) which are all then transferred to the Storehouse (Treasury) in exchange for the CREDIT necessary to operate in the world.

One is FOREIGN to the United States because the United States is just some Corporation: a trust asset service provider; a CROWN corporation entrusted with DEBT-COLLECTION  governed by the Constitution of which the US Citizen can not question.

The Living Trust, being DOMESTIC, does not question any debt, in fact, all debt is PRE-PAID via the "surrender of usufructuary interest" from the Living Trust to the LORD and since the ALL CAP NAME is the trustee of the Living Trust, the ALL CAP NAME operates AS-IF it were Jesus Christ.






Remember the STRUCTURE; the FOUNDATION, that has been built:

A communistic (WORKS go into the Storehouse: Jacob, the lot of His Inheritance), socialistic (LORD was to receive the people) foundation, governed and administrated through a fascist shell (administrators (governors and tutors) over the usufruct governing the inheritance: Live or Evil), packaged and sold to the gullible as Freedom of which is in FACT the rejection by His people of their true inheritance in exercise of their Greed in chasing FALSE profits.

The cure for this condition is to cause a FEEDBACK-LOOP by CONVERTING the "RIGHT to PROFIT from the WORKS," or usufruct, instead of EXECUTING the "RIGHT to PROFIT from the FRUIT" by looping the RIGHT back into the foundation for the communist/socialistic foundation has no choice but to ACCEPT for that is the nature of communism/socialism: to accept it all under one roof; the FOUNDATION will execute the will and intent.

This creates a SIN in Satan's world because the ultimate SIN in capitalism is to operate with a 100% loss, with 100% Charity, and one is SO glutinous to act in charity, one's SIN is then GLUTTONY, which is the natural evolutionary point for sin if left unchecked.  

One CONVERTS the Corporate Sole into a Non-Statutory Corporate Sole by the very fact one is operating Ecclesiastically, but which also means one will not PROFIT for all Revenue and Debts accrue to the Treasury. The Corporate Sole, being the Trustee of the Living Trust, operates the Living Trust to ensure the State receive and service the usufruct while the Living Man receive the naked ownership or disposal rights; disposal rights in this case being the usufruct of the Earth granted to mankind by God Almighty and NAKED-OWNERSHIP of all the WORKS created therefrom in exercise of our FAITH in His covenants.




This enables mankind to create any IMAGE/WORLD as a self-evident monument to the Truth of the nature of their God served, but mankind will always be the USUFRUCT of the underwriting FAITH for that is where the resulting WORKS originate from which mankind governs himself.


~ Boris

We are called to be architects of the future, not its victims;
Resistance is futile.

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Jo King
 one is both beneficiary and trustee of this trust

This doesn't make sense to me.  From what I have studied this situation collapses the trust, for what need of a trustee if the beneficiary is the same person?    Have you found that this is possible in some situations?  please explain.  thanks
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iamsomedude
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It is called an Irrevocable Living Trust and the world operates within TRUSTS.

Usufruct is what I call a split-equity trust ... one is both Beneficiary of the Trust as naked owner AND Trustee to ensure the OTHER beneficiary, the usufructuary, fulfill on its duties BEFORE it receives its allotment from the Trust.



~ Boris

We are called to be architects of the future, not its victims;
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Tony
Boris, probably in different words, I would probably understand more of what you wrote.

So I will do my best to translate to see if I get what you are trying to say, because the way you wrote this, I must admit, I am confused, but I may have a clue.

What you are have done is claim the birth document as your property by affidavit [in equity, you have created a “record”.]  The birth document itself represents/evidences a trust – an individual public estate.  The purpose of this individual public estate is to fund current government operations based upon a future “payment”, thus a trust is being created.  Because the birth record or document was sent to you for your authorized exclusive use [for the benefit of the beneficiary, the US], you are the only one who has the authority to provide a signature by accommodation for that entity.  A new record is created -- If there is any presumption that I, the man, am a legal fiction, a name, please know NOW, this is false.  However, based upon the term, John Doe, Corporation Sole, this term or title or status, now provides public notice that this is my status and no other status is considered or valid [another record is created].  You make it clear that you, the man are domiciled in the House of Doe, an ecclesiastic [Christian Church Law] nation similar as stated in the LON – we are as our “own nation” – we are foreign to the United States.  John Doe, corporation soul is not a surety or trustee of the NOW rebutted presumption, JOHN DOE, the entity, an individual public estate where you, as man is presumed to be trustee and surety fof that individual public estate. The two titles or status’ are distinct.   These two but similar titles are defined by creating unrebuttable records.

Here I may be off.  What you are suggesting is that as title holder/authorized signatory of the birth document, John Doe, Corporation Soul, you created a trust, ABC irrevocable living trust, as grantor [now owner of the tile/birth certificate through affidavit] and beneficiary [you surrendered the birth title/usufruct OR property – thus giving equity [credit] into the living trust, [by delivery, assignment, transfer and conveyance – special deposit] THROUGH all the records you have created forming a trust between the man, as naked owner [to his natural rights] who uses the name and the trust [1st party] who oversees the trust operations for this rightful benefit of the beneficiary [naked owner, the man, John Doe, Corporation Soul].  It is similar to a trustee but in fact it is not, it is more like a “trust protector”.  AND the 2nd party, the all cap name, JOHN DOE, a man made person, entity, debtor, etc as grantee [those receiving the equity by delivery and transfer, etc]  NOW trustees [surety], thus naming the proper authorized officials, ie Department of treasury as trustees because they now have the assignment/equity to obliterate and payoff the “war debt, past debt and any future debt” PLUS take care of daily provisions for the beneficiary of the irrevocable trust, thus canceling out “individual public estate or account” to zero, the debits equal credits RE:  John Doe, Corporation Soul irrevocable trust and JOHN DOE, individual public estate.      

Is this in basically in the right neighborhood?  This is somewhat confusing.  And I will tell you why, it is stuck in MY head that whether upper or lower case, I recall the court sees both as a legal fiction, it is the putting the first and last name together that creates the title, NOT the upper and lower case.  But I think I get where you are going, you are defining the status of the man, who is the trust protector, Grantor [assignment and delivery of the equity of the State’s person] and beneficiary – but not surety, AND the trustees and grantees and beneficiaries of the usufruct [deemed as property or man’s natural rights where the public benefits from such “real energy and use”].


OK, if I am in the right neighborhood, can you explain a little more about the trust itself.  I understand it is irrevocable and why – for the purpose that no one can “change the terms”.  I suspect, when operating the irrevocable trust, this would allow you to do transactions for daily provisions.  You, the man are beneficiary and grantor of the irrevocable trust.   I am not sure how you deposit/surrender/deliver/assign the birth document?  This is not done through the UCC1/3 or only by affidavit but I am suspecting it is similar?  

Specifically, when you purchase provisions, you will receive a receipt – do you do anything specific with that receipt?  I am referring, for example turn it over to the trustee of the Person, ie under 12 USC 342 or does the special deposit of the birth document automatically cancel out ALL debts?  


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iamsomedude
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First, forget everything you think you know as you are making this WAY to complicated. It is confusing because you are making as such.

One is simply claiming an abandoned piece of property and placing that property within the Church via the "Corporate Sole" ... this way one have an earthly estate to receive their heavenly estate.

When are people going to realize that EVERYTHING-IS-ABANDONED? The "powers that be" are simply trustee to hold the property until the RIGHTFUL heir shows up.

Either one IS the heir or one IS-NOT, that simple.

When they identify one thru that NAME, they are TRYING to give one their earthly estate and either one accepts or one rejects via one's understanding of one's heavenly estate.

How hard is this to comprehend?

Stop looking at the paperwork for comprehension and look inside for understanding: Seek ye first your Kingdom in Heaven and God's righteousness and all else will be added unto thee.
 
Stop banging your head against a wall that does not exist.
~ Boris

We are called to be architects of the future, not its victims;
Resistance is futile.

If you think you can, you are correct.
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iamsomedude
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also, you are looking at filings that aren't even being used as they are filled with mistakes. The Docs you are looking at are USELESS; No point in even trying to comprehend them.
~ Boris

We are called to be architects of the future, not its victims;
Resistance is futile.

If you think you can, you are correct.
If you think you can't, you are correct.
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Tony
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Boris, I can spend many hours discussing "we have been given Life and Life abundantly", it is either accepted or not,  We are in full agreement.  By the mere fact by observation of what surrounds us, how anyone in their right mind can have doubt?  Look around you - there is a Universal Law ALWAYS in effect and it works for everyone's good if one can and does tap into It.  The sun rises, the seeds produce food, babies are born, people are healed, "The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof, the world and those that dwell therein."  Metaphysically, the word "Lord" means Law or God.  We are NEVER left hanging.  It is more than faith or even belief, IT IS an inner knowingness that regardless of what appears, ALL IS WELL.  Does this mean, at all times, this inner knowingness "light bulb" is on bright?  No, of course not, but there is a pause and re-centering that still says Wisdom is providing us peace and ease for what is showing up as well as moving past whatever the challenge may be.  I have seen "miracles" - or a better way of saying it, the Law in Action, once It is realized.  Grace is always present and waiting for everyone at all times.  

For a response to "the rightful heir showing up" and I am not looking to justify this response, only provide it, rightly or wrongly, I attempted this through the probate court - in private.  I received no response.  This is the frustrating part.  Am I depending on them for my good?  Honestly, yes and no.  When one knocks, the door can not be permanently closed.  Even God does not operate that way, if the prodigal son returns, there is welcoming arms opened wide.  Not complaining just trying then doing.  
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Tony
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No docs are "the perfect ones", obviously, as I stated previously, I have enough paper to wall paper the bedroom with the ones I sent out.  

The docs I obtained from MN are more comprehensive than what I had done; nonetheless, I would not call them useless.  Nor would I call the ones I prepared useless.  The intent is never useless.  I do not even know if I would go as far as to say "there are mistakes" in anyone's documents.  To loosely pose a question based upon Jim Comey recent BS, "what is the difference between intentional and extremely careless [in law]"?  Yeah - go answer this.  More BS.  

Boris, I am asking you sincerely, to please consider having a weekend seminar on this subject matter.  I believe our time is becoming short and the wheat will have to be separated from the chaff.  Honestly, I hope the entire system collapses, people of Good Being and those not so good, really can not continue to "share the same air space", this too is part of the Universal Law.  Something has to give and soon.  This is why there is an appearance of "turbulence" in the "illusion", consciousness is rising, Good People yearn for their True Nature while others become more entrenched in their pride.

Please consider the weekend seminar or something similar when you have time.